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#Polarisation

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“The silencing of pro-Palestinian or anti-genocide voices is the reason why this genocide is still going on after 10 months.”
Ghassan Abu-Sittah, Rector of the University of Glasgow, 1 August 2024
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securityincontext.org/posts/he (source: [1])

It contains a HUGE misunderstanding:
"pro-Palestinian" and "anti-genocide" voices are two *VERY* different things.

Perhaps NOT from the PoV of Palestinians, but DEFINITELY from the viewpoint of most west-EU citizens, their media and their governments.

Sunday I joined a protest in Rotterdam that was announced as an emergy protest "do not let Gaza starve" (in Dutch: [2]).

However, *AGAIN* it was a *PRO-PALESTINE* protest (see the video I made in infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStrat).

West-EU people, and possibly "their" think tanks, are made to believe that they have to choose between *either* Palestine *or* Israel to exist "from the river to the sea".

Enormously affecting western thinking, the Israeli propaganda machine does their utter best to continuously remind us of the Holocaust, and to make us believe that anyone who denies Israel from "defending themselves against terrorism" is a Holocaust-denier and/or an antisemite. Unfortunately, this *just works*.

On Dutch TV viewers are reminded of WWII *every day*. It simply is #Hasbara without viewers noticing it, and even the media fail to see their bias.

[Note: my grandfather, born in 1900, was a Jew. He was sent to nazi labour camps (instead of Auschwitz) because he was maried to a Dutch woman. His family was murdered by the nazi's. I do not hate non-Zionist Jews.]

Pro-Palestine demonstrations have been counter-productive from the start. If the most extremist arguments are not removed, like shouting "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", I will remain one of the very few Dutch people who is willing to join such protests. And I'm getting tired, because it feels pointless.

IMO #FrancescaAlbaneseIsRight - but her PoV is considered to be too extremistic, in particular when taking into account the immense failure of EU-countries to protect Jews during WWII. It is why hasbara works so well (in Germany in particular).

The cold blooded execution of the rescue workers made it to the news on Dutch TV, but the murder of approx. 17,000 Gazan children and the starvation of 2 million hardly gets any attention.

If polarization is not reduced RIGHT NOW, the media will turn away again. In particular because this year it's 80 years ago WWII ended in NL (victim remembrance day is on May 4), the tone of the debate needs to change. NOW.

If not, 2 million Gazans will die.

[1] Bilal Barakat (@bifouba) in kolektiva.social/@bifouba/1143

[2] acties.todon.nl/event/noodprot

@joenepraat : do you know how to get my message to the protest organizers?

@palestine

www.securityincontext.orgHegemony factories or independent thinkers? Western think tanks on Israel and Palestine after October 7
#Strategy#Gaza#GazaGenocide

Cette étude met en évidence un nouveau clivage idéologique au sein des jeunes générations. Tandis que les jeunes femmes adoptent des positions plus progressistes, notamment sur l’immigration, les minorités et l’égalité des sexes, les jeunes hommes s’orientent davantage vers des idées conservatrices.
L’écart grandissant entre jeunes femmes et jeunes hommes en matière de satisfaction de vie et de confiance envers autrui éclaire les raisons profondes de ce fossé grandissant. Tandis que la satisfaction des jeunes femmes diminue, portée par une prise de conscience accrue des discriminations et inégalités depuis #MeToo, la méfiance interpersonnelle s’intensifie chez les jeunes hommes, ce qui favorise leur basculement vers des valeurs plus conservatrices.
Ce clivage générationnel et genré pose un enjeu politique et social majeur : comment reconstruire un dialogue dans une jeunesse dont les trajectoires idéologiques et les votes semblent de plus en plus opposés ?

https://www.cepremap.fr/2025/03/un-fosse-ideologique-grandissant-entre-jeunes-femmes-et-jeunes-hommes-en-france/

Fortgeführter Thread

5/ Un des reproches principaux : le fact-checking pourrait aggraver la polarisation du débat public. Mais les journalistes vérificateurs insistent : ils se concentrent sur les faits, pas sur les opinions. La question est de savoir comment garantir cette neutralité. #Polarisation

I agree that this is the solution for the increasing fascism, polarisation and silos that we see on social media. We need to force tech companies to A) use algorithms that show a plurality of opinions and views, or B) switch off the algorithms completely.
theguardian.com/commentisfree/
#socialmedia #fascism #polarisation #extremism #algorithms #BigTech

The Guardian · Big tech is picking apart European democracy, but there is a solution: switch off its algorithmsVon Johnny Ryan

"A liberalism whose defining value should have been liberty invented a diversity and inclusion industry whose guiding principle may have been justice but whose means of enforcement included coercion, public disgrace and exclusion." #giftArticle

Despite the terrible title and tagline, this is one of the best things I've read about #polarisation / #polarization since the 1960s, identity politics, and liberalism.

#libdems #fdp
wapo.st/4ak6X84

The Washington Post · I was born liberal. The ‘adults in the room’ still have a lot to learn.Von Michael Ignatieff
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@tzimmer_history Trump a redéfini la droite américaine en exploitant les craintes d'une classe moyenne délaissée, en utilisant les médias pour amplifier son message et en s'alignant sur des mouvements anti-élitistes. Sa polarisation a créé un soutien électoral stable, tout en détruisant l'héritage Obama. Des think tanks comme ceux de Bannon ont renforcé son discours nationaliste. Trump a transformé le paysage politique américain. 🇺🇸📰🔥 #Trumpisme #DroiteAméricaine #Politique #Médias #Polarisation

Pourquoi la France est vulnérable à une dérive «à l’américaine»

La victoire de Donald Trump est indissociable de la #polarisation délétère de la vie politique aux États-Unis. Si la France n’est pas dans la même situation, elle est un pays plus «à risque» que d’autres en Europe de l’Ouest.

mediapart.fr/journal/politique

Very very happy that this major publication from my @arc_gov_au Laureate Fellowship project on #polarisation is finally out now in @icsjournal, and thanks especially to @kathaesa for leading this publication.

(And don’t worry, the article does *not* contain this image. 😱)

RT @kathaesa: How does #polarisation manifest in media & communication at breaking points? Our new @icsjournal article identifies 5 key symptoms of destructive polarisation🔓: doi.org/10.1080/1369118X.2024.

@endlessendless wrote:
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But if there is enough evidence that a majority of Muslims is hating you for any (religious) reason....
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Except that I'm convinced that there is no such evidence - on the contrary.

Yes, each religion, as well as the (growing) group usually called atheists, has at least a minority of *IDIOTS*.

However, a huge majority of Muslims is peaceful. That's actually how their religious books tell them to behave.

For example: my father, who was a Mennonite preacher, was in charge of (and a teacher at) a school for Mennonite preachers in Indonesia for 6 years, starting 1965 (a large share of all Muslims lives in Indonesia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in). I lived there too during those 6 years (I was at my primary school age).

*If* Indonesian people disliked or even hated us, that was *not* primarily because of religious reasons, but because Dutch people had colonized Indonesia (around WW2) and had murdered many Indonesian citizens. *WE* (actually one of my uncles, who fought there as a soldier) were the terrorists.

However, even if some or all of the Indonesians we've met may have hated us, *NONE* of them ever ran towards us carrying knives, guns or even explosives tied to their body. Instead, *every* grown up was extremely polite, and children were children (some of them scolded my sister and me "Londoh" - slang for Belanda, which is Indonesian for Dutch - but many kids became friends that I used to play with).

You are encouraging a self-fulfilling prophecy. Let's hate Muslims, because you, "endlessness", were made to believe that the majority of Muslims hates you.

Guess how that story will end if everyone becomes an "endlessness".

Will that be like how the heavily encouraged hatred between US citizens (regardless of religion, not taking into account worshipped politicians) will definitely lead to a civil war?

And/or how the mutual hatred between Israeli's and non-Israeli's (regardless of religion) in the Middle East has already led to pointless but extreme suffering of many?

I'm glad that I don't think like you.

en.wikipedia.orgIslam in Indonesia - Wikipedia
#Hatred#BlindHatred#Muslims