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Erik van Straten<a href="https://ruhr.social/@ericalaeta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@ericalaeta</a> : I'm a Threema user, but this worries me: <a href="https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/secure-encryption-and-online-anonymity-are-now-at-risk-in-switzerland-heres-what-you-need-to-know" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/secure-encryption-and-online-anonymity-are-now-at-risk-in-switzerland-heres-what-you-need-to-know</a>Source: Guillaume Tronix (<a href="https://defcon.social/@gtronix" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@gtronix</a> ) in <a href="https://defcon.social/@gtronix/114230271744822975" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://defcon.social/@gtronix/114230271744822975</a><a href="https://chaos.social/@adfichter" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@adfichter</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Threema" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Threema</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Signal</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatApps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatApps</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Backdoor" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Backdoor</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Privacy</a>

Konstantin MacherDienstag 11.03. steht die <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/Chatkontrolle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chatkontrolle</a> wieder auf der Tagesordnung der Ratsarbeitsgruppe Strafverfolgung. Der polnische Vorsitz im Rat hat Ende Januar einen Vorschlag gemacht bei dem <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> für Unternehmen nicht mehr verpflichtend wäre.Aber: Unternehmen dürften freiwillig private Nachrichten scannen und werden dazu auch angehalten, außerdem Pflicht zu technischen Alterskontrollen.<a href="https://eupolicy.social/@edri" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@edri</a> gibt einen Überblick und schaut in die 🔮 wie es weiter gehen könnte: <a href="https://edri.org/our-work/poland-searches-for-silver-bullet-for-csa-regulation/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://edri.org/our-work/poland-searches-for-silver-bullet-for-csa-regulation/</a>

Erik van StratenChatControl in Duitsland: NetzPolitikDuitstalig: <a href="https://netzpolitik.org/2025/geheimer-beschluss-paedokriminelle-inhalte-bleiben-trotz-kenntnis-der-polizei-im-netz/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://netzpolitik.org/2025/geheimer-beschluss-paedokriminelle-inhalte-bleiben-trotz-kenntnis-der-polizei-im-netz/</a>.Voor de medelanders die minder goed zijn in Duits (werkt in Chrome, andere browsers mogelijk niet), een matige vertaling (door Google van DE naar NL): <a href="https://netzpolitik-org.translate.goog/2025/geheimer-beschluss-paedokriminelle-inhalte-bleiben-trotz-kenntnis-der-polizei-im-netz/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=nl&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://netzpolitik-org.translate.goog/2025/geheimer-beschluss-paedokriminelle-inhalte-bleiben-trotz-kenntnis-der-polizei-im-netz/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=nl&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp</a>.Matig, want ondanks de belachelijke AI-hype: met stomme fouten. Zoals "Deutsche Polizeibehörden lassen weiterhin Bilder und Videos bewusst im Netz" dat Google vertaalt in "De Duitse politie blijft opzettelijk foto's en video's online plaatsen".Tip als u zelf een vertaallink wilt maken: • Open <a href="https://translate.google.com/?sl=nl&tl=en&op=websites" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://translate.google.com/?sl=nl&tl=en&op=websites</a> • Wijzig zonodig bron/doel-talen • Vul de URL in (of kopieer/plak) • Druk op (->)Nu kunt u de link uit de adresbalk kopiëren (waarom dat een naar phishing stinkende "translate.goog" link wordt, ontgaat ook mij).Mijn bron voor die NetzPolitik pagina: "linuzifer" (<a href="https://23.social/@linuzifer" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@linuzifer</a>) in <a href="https://23.social/@linuzifer/113962088218420345" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://23.social/@linuzifer/113962088218420345</a>.<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BurgerSpionage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BurgerSpionage</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/WerktAverechts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WerktAverechts</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GoogleTranslate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GoogleTranslate</a>

ThomGenau darum: <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/GrapheneOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GrapheneOS</a> und <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a><a href="https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113969399311251057" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/113969399311251057</a>"Wir arbeiten ständig an der Entwicklung neuer Steuerelemente und Funktionen, um Ihre Unterhaltungen in Google Messages noch sicherer und privater zu gestalten." -> <a href="https://security.googleblog.com/2024/10/5-new-protections-on-google-messages.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://security.googleblog.com/2024/10/5-new-protections-on-google-messages.html</a>"Das Problem des KI-gestützten clientseitigen Scannens ist auch seine hohe Fehlerquote. Mit 10-20 Prozent fälschlich gekennzeichneter Inhalte ist zu rechnen." -> <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/113969191214363432" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/113969191214363432</a><a href="https://swiss.social/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Datenschutz</a> <a href="https://swiss.social/tags/privatsphare" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privatsphare</a>

Erik van Straten<a href="https://partyon.xyz/@nullagent" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nullagent</a> : it was on my Google Pixel 6 Pro smartphone.I installed it less than 2 hours ago (<a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113969482569037175" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113969482569037175</a>) after reading Tuta's (<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Tutanota</a> ) toot in <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/113969191214363432" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/113969191214363432</a>.<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@jack" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@jack</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CameraInYourBathroom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CameraInYourBathroom</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AndroidSystemSafetyCore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AndroidSystemSafetyCore</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigBrother" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigBrother</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTechIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigTechIsEvil</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GoogleIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GoogleIsEvil</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/WhatAreTheySmoking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhatAreTheySmoking</a>

Erik van Straten<a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@Tutanota</a> : it was already installed on my Google Pixel 6 Pro - without anybody asking whether I agree with this shit.Just uninstalled it.<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CameraInYourBathroom" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CameraInYourBathroom</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AndroidSystemSafetyCore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AndroidSystemSafetyCore</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigBrother" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigBrother</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTechIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigTechIsEvil</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GoogleIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GoogleIsEvil</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/WhatAreTheySmoking" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WhatAreTheySmoking</a>

Erik van StratenZojuist uninstalled (Android, Pixel 6)Meer info: <a href="https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/113969191214363432" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.social/@Tutanota/113969191214363432</a><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CameraInDeWC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CameraInDeWC</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AndroidSystemSafetyCore" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AndroidSystemSafetyCore</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Privacy</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigBrother" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigBrother</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTechIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigTechIsEvil</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/GoogleIsEvil" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#GoogleIsEvil</a>

nullagentA few folks are questioning if AI scanning like what Android is doing can be missused. The last time a similar feature was coming to Apple's iOS the media rightly described it as an extremely dangerous warrantless surveillance tool.Regardless of what Android developers intended this client side scanner to do it will be enlisted by governments of the world to spy on you and break strong encryption.<a href="https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/01/csam-scanning-flaw/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/01/csam-scanning-flaw/</a><a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/privacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#privacy</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/cybersecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cybersecurity</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/apple" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#apple</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/android" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#android</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/ai" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ai</a> <a href="https://partyon.xyz/tags/clientsidescanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#clientsidescanning</a>

DitutuWeiß hier jemand Genaueres zur App Android System SafetyCore?<a href="https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.safetycore&hl=de" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.safetycore&hl=de</a><a href="https://developers.google.com/android/binary_transparency/google1p/overview?hl=de" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://developers.google.com/android/binary_transparency/google1p/overview?hl=de</a><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Datenschutz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Datenschutz</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/google" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#google</a>

Freedom not Fear<a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> proposal failed in the Council of the EU again today! 🎉Hungary tried to use its presidency to shame critical governments into agreeing to the proposed mass surveillance by forcing ministers to explain themselves during live-streamed public session. This plan backfired: several countries took the floor to confirm on the record that this would undermine <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/cybersecurity" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#cybersecurity</a>, attack <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/encryption" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#encryption</a> with <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> and violate fundamental rights! <a href="https://video.consilium.europa.eu/event/en/27778" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://video.consilium.europa.eu/event/en/27778</a> <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/StopScanningMe" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#StopScanningMe</a>

Konstantin MacherKurioserweise hat Ungarn die Kritik an der <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/Chatkontrolle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chatkontrolle</a> heute gestärkt: wir haben die Bestätigung für unsere Kritik an <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a>, Angriff auf Verschlüsselung, unvereinbar mit Grundrechten etc. jetzt auf Kamera, ausgesprochen von Minister*innen im Rat der EU. Die Clips können wir jetzt jedes Mal zeigen, wenn die EU-Kommission wieder versucht diese Probleme zu leugnen!

Freedom not FearThere has not been progress on the <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> proposal in Council of the EU because many governments still push for undermining encryption. <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> The Council's own legal service has established that the proposal is incompatible with European fundamental rights and would violate the very essence of the right to privacy.

Konstantin Macher2021 wurde <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/Chatkontrolle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Chatkontrolle</a> 1.0 beschlossen, eine TEMPORÄRE Ausnahme von der <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ePrivacy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ePrivacy</a>-Richtlinie und Online-Plattformen damit zum Scannen privater Kommunikation auf CSAM ermächtigt. Aktuell soll Chatkontrollle 2.0 daraus eine Pflicht für Online-Anbieter zum Scannen nach bekanntem Material via <a href="https://eupolicy.social/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> machen. Für freiwilliges Scannen nach unbekanntem Material und Grooming will Ungarn jetzt die Chatkontrolle 1.0 **AUF 10 JAHRE** verlängern. WTF <a href="https://chaos.social/@netzpolitik_feed" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@netzpolitik_feed</a>: <a href="https://netzpolitik.org/2024/letzter-anlauf-zur-chatkontrolle-ungarn-will-zustimmung-zum-scannen-erzwingen/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://netzpolitik.org/2024/letzter-anlauf-zur-chatkontrolle-ungarn-will-zustimmung-zum-scannen-erzwingen/</a>

MaximilianBlumIch weiß zwar nicht was das <a href="https://linke.social/tags/FBI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FBI</a> in deutschen <a href="https://linke.social/tags/telegram" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#telegram</a> chats zu suchen hat. Aber der Fall zeigt auf, dass man weder <a href="https://linke.social/tags/Netzsperren" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Netzsperren</a>, noch <a href="https://linke.social/tags/Vorratsdatenspeicherung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Vorratsdatenspeicherung</a> zur <a href="https://linke.social/tags/Bestandsdatenauskunft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Bestandsdatenauskunft</a> noch ein technisches Aufbrechen der EzuE-<a href="https://linke.social/tags/Verschl%C3%BCsselung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Verschlüsselung</a> oder technisches <a href="https://linke.social/tags/clientsidescanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#clientsidescanning</a> braucht, um Terror zu bekämpfen. <a href="https://linke.social/tags/s%C3%A4chsischeseparatisten" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#sächsischeseparatisten</a> <a href="https://linke.social/tags/Faschos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Faschos</a> <a href="https://linke.social/tags/afd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#afd</a> <a href="https://ard.social/@tagesschau" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tagesschau</a> <a href="https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/ndr-wdr/rechtsextreme-saechsische-separatisten-fbi-100.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.tagesschau.de/investigativ/ndr-wdr/rechtsextreme-saechsische-separatisten-fbi-100.html</a>

DeepSec Conference ☑DeepSec 2024 Talk: Insights on Client-Side Scanning and Alternatives in the Fight Against Child Sexual Abuse and Exploitation – Carolyn GuthoffContent Warning: This talk may include mention of child sexual abuse and explo<a href="https://blog.deepsec.net/deepsec-2024-talk-insights-on-client-side-scanning-and-alternatives-in-the-fight-against-child-sexual-abuse-and-exploitation-carolyn-guthoff/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://blog.deepsec.net/deepsec-2024-talk-insights-on-client-side-scanning-and-alternatives-in-the-fight-against-child-sexual-abuse-and-exploitation-carolyn-guthoff/</a><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Conference" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Conference</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/ChildSexualAbuseAndExploitation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChildSexualAbuseAndExploitation</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CSAE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSAE</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/DeepSec2024" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DeepSec2024</a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Talk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Talk</a>

Erik van Straten<a href="https://mastodon.nl/@bert_hubert" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@bert_hubert</a> (in [0]), de titel in de vergaderagenda van het Kabinet klopt sowieso niet:    Kabinetsstandpunt inzake de     EU-Verordening ter bestrijding van     online seksueel kindermisbruikChatcontrol gaat namelijk geen:    online seksueel kindermisbruikbestrijden. Ik leg het, voor allen die (nog) niet weten wat het doel van Chatcontrol nou eigenlijk is, nog eens uit. Dat is om:    Informatie, die een burger vanaf een     smartphone probeert te verzenden,     te "herkennen" indien die informatie     "ongewenst" is."Herkennen" in de zin van dat die informatie (c.q één of meer delen daarvan), voldoet aan _éérder_ door autoriteiten vastgestelde criteria.Daarbij moet Chatcontrol meerdere, verschillende, "brokken" informatie kunnen "herkennen". Welke "brokken" dat zijn staat niet bij voorbaat vast en kan op elk moment worden uitgebreid.U kunt Chatcontrol prima vergelijken met de (basis) scanfunctionaliteit van een virusscanner op uw PC. Als een bestand gescand wordt, haalt de virusscanner, één voor één, records met criteria voor specifieke computervirussen uit de database met "virusdefinities" (virusscanners downloaden soms meerdere keren per dag de laatste versie van hun database). Als het gescande bestand *reeds bekende* schadelijke software bevat, laat de virusscanner *u* een waarschuwing zien.Net als bij de scanfunctie van een virusscanner, zou Chatcontrol beeldmateriaal moeten herkennen waarvan éérder is vastgesteld dat daarop "seksueel kindermisbruik" te zien is.Merk op m.b.t. dat beeldmateriaal: "EERDER VASTGESTELD". Met de huidige technologie is het namelijk onmogelijk om (zonder absurd veel valspositieven, dus onterechte "herkenning") *live* seksueel kindermisbruik te herkennen.Chatcontrol gaat dus sowieso geen daders opsporen die via livestreams Filippijnse kinderen laten misbruiken (<a href="https://nos.nl/artikel/2533794-rechtszaken-over-misbruik-op-livestreams-nieuwe-vorm-van-kindersekstoerisme" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://nos.nl/artikel/2533794-rechtszaken-over-misbruik-op-livestreams-nieuwe-vorm-van-kindersekstoerisme</a>), maar ook geen "klassieke" makers van kinderporno. Immers, Chatcontrol herkent (als het goed gaat) uitsluitend *eerder* als zijnde kinderporno herkend beeldmateriaal.Anders dan bij uw virusscanner zal Chatcontrol niet *u*, maar iemand in een "EU-centrum" (naar verluidt [1] gepland in Den Haag, nabij het Europol-gebouw) waarschuwen indien u, via een chat-app, informatie verstuurt die (al dan niet terecht [2]) door Chatcontrol wordt "herkend".Hoewel voormalig minister Yesilgöz stelde dat Chatcontrol geen encryptie doorbreekt en dat kinderrechten belangrijker zijn dan uw privacy (dat *zijn* sterke argumenten), hoor ik bijna niemand beargumenteren waarom Chatcontrol juist (seksueel) kindermisbruik zal laten toenemen, zoals ik in o.a. [3] beargumenteerde.Ook experts zoals Iva Bicanic, Robbert Hoving en Arda Gerkens waarschuwen voor risico's van Chatcontrol (voor links zie [4]).Minder ruchtbaarheid is eraan gegeven dat Chatcontrol, naar verluidt [5], ook voor het opsporen van andere "criminaliteit" bedoeld is.Lasy but not least, FTM.eu onthulde in [6] dat Ashton Kutcher en anderen een ordinaire lobby met winstoogmerk voor Chatcontrol voerden bij de EC.[0] <a href="https://mastodon.nl/@bert_hubert/113209802794537590" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.nl/@bert_hubert/113209802794537590</a>[1] <a href="https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/NL/TXT/?uri=COM%3A2022%3A209%3AFIN" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/NL/TXT/?uri=COM%3A2022%3A209%3AFIN</a> Daaruit: « (72) Aangezien het EU-centrum intensief met Europol moet samenwerken, moet de zetel van het EU-centrum worden gevestigd naast die van Europol, namelijk in Den Haag (Nederland). »[2] <a href="https://security.nl/posting/797615" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://security.nl/posting/797615</a> (lang, veel details)[3] <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113154997114450971" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113154997114450971</a>[4] <a href="https://security.nl/posting/858879" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://security.nl/posting/858879</a>[5] <a href="https://www.tweedekamer.nl/downloads/document?id=2023D18765" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.tweedekamer.nl/downloads/document?id=2023D18765</a> Daarin schreef toenmalig minister van Justitie, Dilan Yesilgöz (nadruk aangebracht door mij): "[...] Encryptie stelt de opsporing voor grote uitdagingen. In opsporingsonderzoeken blijkt het in veel gevallen zeer lastig en soms onmogelijk om gegevens die nodig zijn om criminelen op te sporen te verkrijgen. Ook in gevallen waarin dat volgens de wet is aangewezen. Deze uitdagingen zijn vooral aan de orde bij diensten die gebruik maken van end-to-end encryptie. [...] Dit gebrek belemmert de opsporings- en inlichtingendiensten in hun wettelijke taak de samenleving veilig te maken. Ik deel deze zorgen en vind ik het van belang dat de mogelijkheden van de opsporing om criminaliteit tegen te gaan effectief en adequaat zijn. Om zo te voorkomen dat criminelen vrij spel hebben, *ONDER ANDERE* bij het verspreiden van online materiaal van seksueel kindermisbruik. [...]"[6] <a href="https://www.ftm.eu/articles/ashton-kutchers-non-profit-start-up-makes-millions-from-fighting-child-abuse-online" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.ftm.eu/articles/ashton-kutchers-non-profit-start-up-makes-millions-from-fighting-child-abuse-online</a> (alt: <a href="https://archive.is/mtitb" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://archive.is/mtitb</a>).<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OverDeRuggenVanMisbruikteKinderen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OverDeRuggenVanMisbruikteKinderen</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSAM</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Volksverlakkerij" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Volksverlakkerij</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/EC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EC</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AshtonKutcher" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AshtonKutcher</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Thorn" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Thorn</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Safer_io" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Safer_io</a>

Erik van Straten<a href="https://eupolicy.social/@kimvsparrentak" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@kimvsparrentak</a> : met Chatcontrol wordt er geen encryptie gesloopt en jouw privacy is ondergeschikt aan de rechten van kinderen (alsus Dilan Yesilgöz, zie bijv. <a href="https://security.nl/posting/797615" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://security.nl/posting/797615</a>).Waarom het toch een bar slecht idee is, vooral voor kinderen: <a href="https://www.security.nl/posting/858499/Chatcontrol+brief+Bert+Hubert" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.security.nl/posting/858499/Chatcontrol+brief+Bert+Hubert</a><a href="https://bird.makeup/users/nwsoccontract" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nwsoccontract</a> <a href="https://mastodon.nl/@altim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@altim</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OverDeRuggenVanMisbruikteKinderen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OverDeRuggenVanMisbruikteKinderen</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a>

Erik van Straten<a href="https://mastodon.nl/@LiefhebberV" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@LiefhebberV</a> : het huidige voorstel "beperkt" zich tot wat de Nederlandse vertegenwoordiging destijd verzocht: uitsluitend scannen van beeldmateriaal, als een soort virusscanner zoekend naar *eerder* als CSAM (*) aangemerkt beeldmateriaal.(*) Child Sexual Abuse MaterialDit heeft niets te maken met "AI", maar met algoritmes voor beeldherkenning - die (net als een virusscanner in de basis) gebruikmaakt van een database met definities (identifiers) van "known malicious files".Echter, waar valspositieven een drama kunnen zijn voor virusscanners (<a href="https://nu.nl/slimmer-leven/6327304/waarom-je-niet-altijd-naar-je-virusscanner-moet-luisteren.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://nu.nl/slimmer-leven/6327304/waarom-je-niet-altijd-naar-je-virusscanner-moet-luisteren.html</a>), wordt bij Chatcontrol een significant percentage valspositieven als onvermijdelijk beschouwd.Los daarvan gaat het dus slechts om het (opnieuw) herkennen van éérder als kinderporno gevlagde beelden.Pogingen om *nieuw* materiaal en bijvoorbeeld grooming *live* te herkennen, zijn gedoemd te mislukken; technologie die dat betrouwbaar (d.w.z. met niet een onhandelbaar hoog percentage valspositieven) kan, bestaat nog niet.Vooral als je de context niet kent (wat extreme tracking en dus privacynegéren zou vereisen) gaat dat de komende jaren niet gebeuren - en mogelijk nooit.<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AI</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Grooming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Grooming</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/LiveStreams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LiveStreams</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSAM</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KCSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KCSAM</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KnownCSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KnownCSAM</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Hoax" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Hoax</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Beeldherkenning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Beeldherkenning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/PhotoDNA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PhotoDNA</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/PerceptionalHashes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PerceptionalHashes</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/FuzzyHashes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FuzzyHashes</a>

Erik van StratenMeer hierover leest u in [1] waarin ik onder meer verwijs naar <a href="https://ecp.nl/interview-arda-gerkens/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://ecp.nl/interview-arda-gerkens/</a>, waaruit ik kopieerde: « “De Eurocommissaris heeft vooral geluisterd naar techbedrijven die zich opstellen als belangenbehartiger van slachtoffers. Maar in werkelijkheid willen die bedrijven hun diensten verkopen. Je bereikt juist het tegenovergestelde met deze wetgeving. Communicatiemiddelen worden onveiliger en je schendt privacy- en mensenrechten.” »Terzijde, Dilan Yesilgöz belazert u en de Tweede Kamer niet alleen via onderbuikgevoelens i.r.t. ChatControl. Zelfs de PvdD steunde haar destijds op een ander topic (en de BBB en PVV nog steeds): zie <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/112560939510348995" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/112560939510348995</a>[1] <a href="https://security.nl/posting/858879" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://security.nl/posting/858879</a><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OverDeRuggenVanMisbruikteKinderen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OverDeRuggenVanMisbruikteKinderen</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSAM</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/MSM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MSM</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KinderMisbruik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KinderMisbruik</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KinderPorno" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KinderPorno</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/SymptoomBestrijding" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SymptoomBestrijding</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/HeksenJacht" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HeksenJacht</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/NitwitPolitici" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NitwitPolitici</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Yesilgoz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Yesilgoz</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DilanYesilgoz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DilanYesilgoz</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Propaganda" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Propaganda</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Populisme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Populisme</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OnderbuikGevoelens" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OnderbuikGevoelens</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KiezersBedrog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KiezersBedrog</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DefinitieVanAntisemitisme" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DefinitieVanAntisemitisme</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/RechtOmZichTeVerdedigen" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RechtOmZichTeVerdedigen</a>

Erik van StratenChatControl@Geïnteresseerden, ik heb mijn reactie [1] op de kabinetsbrief [2][3] van Bert Hubert, voorzien van verdere toelichichting, gepubliceerd in <a href="https://www.security.nl/posting/858499/Chatcontrol+brief+Bert+Hubert" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.security.nl/posting/858499/Chatcontrol+brief+Bert+Hubert</a>.[1] <a href="https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113154997114450971" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://infosec.exchange/@ErikvanStraten/113154997114450971</a> [2] <a href="https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/brief-csam/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/brief-csam/</a> [3] bron: <a href="https://mastodon.nl/@bert_hubert/113154436966467216" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://mastodon.nl/@bert_hubert/113154436966467216</a><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSS</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatControl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatControl</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CSAM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CSAM</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/EC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EC</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EU</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/BigTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BigTech</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KinderPorno" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KinderPorno</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/KinderMisbruik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#KinderMisbruik</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ClientSideScanning" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ClientSideScanning</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Detectie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Detectie</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ValsPositieven" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ValsPositieven</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ValsNegatieven" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ValsNegatieven</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/PhotoDNA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PhotoDNA</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/PerceptualHashes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PerceptualHashes</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CosineTransform" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CosineTransform</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ImageRecognition" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ImageRecognition</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/FuzzyHashes" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FuzzyHashes</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/HammingDistance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HammingDistance</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ChatApps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ChatApps</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Surveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Surveillance</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OverheidsSurveillance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OverheidsSurveillance</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Proportionaliteit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Proportionaliteit</a>

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