What do you think is still missing in #Wayland?
I feel that the last rough edges have been ironed out in the last year. This includes #HDR, #TripleBuffering, #ColorManagement, #SessionRestore implementations, improved #Accessibility, etc.
What important pieces do you think are still missing in Wayland?
#XWayland #Mutter #KWin #Gnome #KDE #X11 #XOrg #Cosmic #Enlightenment #GTK4 #GTK #QT6 #Weston #Cinnamon #Xfce hyprland #niri #sway
Mi #viernesdeescritorio con #gnu #guix ejecutando varios progrmas como la #terminal, #inkscape, #librewolf, #gajim y el administrador de archivos de #Gnome sobre #xorg
No olviden que pueden ver este toot y muchos mas en:
https://libretics.org/viernesdeescritorio/
Updated: How to Check If Wayland or Xorg Is Being Used
- Add new solution
- Add new post image
- Fix clarity
Find out if Wayland or Xorg is being used as the GNU/Linux display server using a graphical interface or terminal.
https://www.adamsdesk.com/posts/find-display-server-wayland-xorg/
Well, I really like #X11 (#Xorg) ... and my son loves #PeppaPig. Which gives me a stupid idea. I could write something called #Xchicken. Make some chicken lay some eggs with mouse clicks on some #XRender surface.
Rough roadmap:
- Draw some chicken and eggs, probably as SVG?
- Reuse code from #Xmoji, add special widget supporting some "layered canvas"
- Implement game logic
- Add sound? (Hm, gotta look into #OSS and maybe #sndio, cause #FreeBSD ... #Linux weirdness maybe later)
- ....?
I'll probably never start though 
'"The (basic) kwin split had been completed yesterday. […] Both kwin_x11 and kwin_wayland are co-installable […] lwin_x11 is expected to be maintained until Plasma 7, no new features are expected to be backported (to be fair, the feature freeze has been in place for quite a while already […]). New fixes should be landed in kwin_wayland first, then backported to kwin_x11."'
https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/plasma-devel/2025-March/123654.html
Про миграцию на Wayland.
Последние пару лет у меня Xorg оставался на машинах из-за Simple Desktop Display Manager (SDDM).
Несколько месяцев назад #SDDM таки ушёл на #Wayland и больше #Xorg не используется, можно удалять.
Если что-то из софта потеряло функциональность, вынужденно работая через #Xwayland на тех системах, где нет Xorg, то в этом софте ментейнеры довольно быстро реализовал поддержку Wayland.
Однако, пошло это лишь тогда, когда дистрибутивы стали использовать Wayland в качестве основного GUI-сервера.
Не фанат Wayland, просто #X11 сам по себе и Xorg крайне небезопасны и категорически не способны сделать безопасный десктоп для пользователя. А потому и неизбежен переход на Wayland, альтернатив нет.
И в тоже время, комично наблюдать как толпы жалуются, что якобы Wayland плохой\сырой и т.д. так и не вкурив, о необходимости переключать софт на работу с ним.
Например, можно в /etc/environment вставить:
QT_WAYLAND_TEXT_INPUT_PROTOCOL=zwp_text_input_v2
MOZ_ENABLE_WAYLAND=1
QT_QPA_PLATFORM="wayland;xcb"
SDL_VIDEODRIVER="wayland,x11"
Перезагрузиться и тогда уже составлять впечталение о работе десктопа с Wayland’ом.
Yeah, yeah, #Xorg old, unmaintainable, whatever. It's still my only choice for desktop.
What surprises me, though, is how some distros can keep it running super smooth, while others seem to have this problem at every few updates or so (it gets fixed, just to break again a few weeks later).
I guess this is smell of its unmaintainability - you fix something, but break another in the process. :S
@eobet #Wayland and #Nvidia are not at all a good combination, it is way better but still all glitchy and slow and error prone.
Due to that I would recommend to switch back to #Xorg for at least a year (or two) and hope that Nvidia gets its drivers in a state that is somewhat on the same level as the drivers from Intel or AMD.
Kritische X.Org & Xwayland-Sicherheitslücken! Acht Schwachstellen ermöglichen Codeausführung – Ubuntu & RedHat patchen bereits, SUSE & Debian folgen. Jetzt updaten & Systeme schützen! #Linux #SecurityUpdate #XOrg #CyberSecurity
Kritische X.Org & Xwayland-Sicherheitslücken! Acht Schwachstellen ermöglichen Codeausführung – Ubuntu & RedHat patchen bereits, SUSE & Debian folgen. Jetzt updaten & Systeme schützen! #Linux #SecurityUpdate #XOrg #CyberSecurity
X.Org X server and Xwayland have 8 more security vulnerabilities revealed
#Linux #OpenSource #Xorg #Xwayland
X.Org X server and Xwayland ha...
X.Org X server and Xwayland have 8 more security vulnerabilities revealed https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/x-org-x-server-and-xwayland-have-8-more-security-vulnerabilities-revealed/
X.Org und Xwayland: Sicherheitslücken ermöglichen Codeschmuggel
Mehrere Sicherheitslücken in X.Org und Xwayland ermöglichen Angreifern das Einschmuggeln von Schadcode. Updates stehen zum Teil bereit.
In which ‘dudemanguy’ is much less grumpy about #Wayland:
“Reassessing Wayland” (https://dudemanguy.github.io/blog/posts/2025-02-03-wayland-xorg-2/wayland-xorg-2.html).
Via Lobsters: https://lobste.rs/s/iwiwye/reassessing_wayland
Wayland: The Modern Display Server Protocol for UNIX-like Systems
Wayland represents a significant evolution in the way graphical systems are built for UNIX-like operating systems. It was conceived as a response to the longstanding complexity of the X Window System, aiming to create a simpler, more efficient, and secure mechanism for managing display output and user input.
Read More: https://machaddr.substack.com/p/wayland-the-modern-display-server
TIL I learned about 2024 announced fingerprint tech
It's a frightmare
https://tuta.com/blog/digital-fingerprinting-worse-than-cookies
I was listening to a podcast and they mentioned a poll of a community. Let’s see what the Fedi think.
What desktop server do you run: XOrg or Wayland?
#AskFedi #FediPoll #PleaseBoost #Wayland #XOrg #Linux
30 days on this poll - get the most reach. Please boost for reach too.
