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Dino<p>Dino 0.5 is out! 🥳</p><p>Dino now features improved file transfers and two completely reworked dialogs.</p><p>Release blog post: <a href="https://dino.im/blog/2025/04/dino-0.5-release/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">dino.im/blog/2025/04/dino-0.5-</span><span class="invisible">release/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/dino" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dino</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gtk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gtk</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gnome" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gnome</span></a></p>
Kevin Karhan :verified:<p><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/discord" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>discord</span></a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LhiCP8AQWs" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>IS LITERALLY THE PROBLEM!</em></a></p><ul><li><p>It's worse than any <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IRC</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Mumble" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Mumble</span></a> or even the old <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/TeamSpeak" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TeamSpeak</span></a> &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Skype" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Skype</span></a> for that matter.</p></li><li><p>It combines the disadvantages of <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Forum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Forum</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/paywalled" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>paywalled</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>documentation</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/voicechat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>voicechat</span></a> with 0 redeeming qualities (unlike <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Zulip" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Zulip</span></a> &amp; Mumble &amp; <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>+<a href="https://infosec.space/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a>) it's just an <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/InformationBlackhole" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>InformationBlackhole</span></a>!</p></li></ul><p>I'm shure fecking <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/dread" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dread</span></a> has better moderation and I'd rather use <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/MicrosoftTeams" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MicrosoftTeams</span></a> + <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Slack" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Slack</span></a> cuz those at least have proper <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/moderation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>moderation</span></a> tools.</p><ul><li>And I'd rather subscribe to the <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/LKML" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>LKML</span></a> and see my inbox getting hosed than using any shitty <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SaaS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SaaS</span></a>!</li></ul><p>Case in point: I'd rather <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/SelfHost" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SelfHost</span></a> all my comms infrastructure than to ever use something like Discord or any other <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/GDPR" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GDPR</span></a>-violating SaaS that is just enshittification.</p><p>I'd rather recommend people to instead choose a tool that does <em>everything but horrible</em> to go with multiple <em>smaller &amp; good tools</em></p><ul><li>Public Chat? IRC!</li><li>Group Voicechat? Mumble.</li><li><a href="https://infosec.space/tags/Documentation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Documentation</span></a>? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/mkDocs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>mkDocs</span></a>-material.</li><li>1:1 Chats? XMPP+OMEMO.</li><li>E2EE Group Chats? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/deltaChat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>deltaChat</span></a>.</li><li>E2EE Calls? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/WebCall" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WebCall</span></a>.</li><li>Filehosting? <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/IPFS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IPFS</span></a>, <a href="https://infosec.space/tags/BitTorrent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BitTorrent</span></a>, oshi.at, etc. ...</li><li>…</li></ul><p>Check <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mas.to/@alternativeto" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>alternativeto</span></a></span> and <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@european_alternatives" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>european_alternatives</span></a></span> for options.</p>
Sans DeC<p>vous avez des salons <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>matrix</span></a> ou <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> intéressants ? J’ai les deux mais je n’utilise pas trop, vu que je n’ai quasiment plus de contact avec personne.</p>
Cyber-Fox 🏴‍☠️🐙<p>Gajim 2.1.0 - Gajim</p><p><a href="https://gajim.org/fr/post/2025-04-08-gajim-2.1.0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">gajim.org/fr/post/2025-04-08-g</span><span class="invisible">ajim-2.1.0-released/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a><br><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
erebion<p>What would be some good places to donate towards improving <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a> stuff?</p><p>I'm mostly happy, but would like to donate to make sure I can continue to enjoy it all, but don't know where.</p>
HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://troet.cafe/@stubenhocker" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>stubenhocker</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Messenger" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Messenger</span></a> Apps mit <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>-Protokoll</p><p>Na ja, es ist ja nur ein Protokoll, genau wie das <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ActivityPub" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ActivityPub</span></a> protocol fürs Fediversum.</p><p>Das war mal überfällig--Übersicht über mögliche Apps:</p><p><a href="https://eversten.net/blog/tabelle/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">eversten.net/blog/tabelle/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>Ich vermute mal, die können auch alle miteinander komunizieren.</p><p>Mich würden die aktiven Nutzerzahlen interessieren, aber nachdem 95% der Apps nach dem 3. Monat nicht mehr genutzt werden... </p><p>"Messenger, die den offenen Standard xmpp.org verwenden."<br> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.bida.im/@thevril" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>thevril</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@pluralistic" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>pluralistic</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mamot.fr/@kino" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kino</span></a></span></p>
Slimy9343<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.space/@kkarhan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kkarhan</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Blaumensch1" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Blaumensch1</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/@kuketzblog" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>kuketzblog</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://monocles.social/@monocles" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>monocles</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://chaos.social/@delta" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>delta</span></a></span> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> oder <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>matrix</span></a>. Ich hab mich für nen eigenen Matrix Server entschieden. Läuft wie warme Butter auf nem <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/vps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vps</span></a> mit <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>docker</span></a> bei Strato.</p>
CodimpGajim 2.1.0 est dispo avec 2 grandes améliorations :<br>- Le flux d'activités : un espace qui dans le futur permettra de voir les réactions, demande de contacts, mentions, etc<br>- Le support de Message Displayed Synchronization (XEP-0490) : ça synchronise vos discussions lus, finis le coup des discussions qu'on a déjà lus en non lus sur téléphones ou ordi quand on passe de l'un à l'autre !<br><br>Et c'est traduis en français ici bien sur :<br><a href="https://gajim.org/fr/post/2025-04-08-gajim-2.1.0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://gajim.org/fr/post/2025-04-08-gajim-2.1.0-released/</a><br><br><a class="hashtag" href="https://social.lithio.fr/tag/xmpp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XMPP</a>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://fosstodon.org/@gajim" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>gajim</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Gajim</span></a> 2.1.0-1 will land in <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Debian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Debian</span></a>&nbsp;13 <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/trixie" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>trixie</span></a> within the next hours. You can already install it from Debian unstable.</p><p><a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a></p>
Debacle<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@rubdos" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>rubdos</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hub.tschlotfeldt.de/channel/ts-new" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ts-new</span></a></span></p><p>I agree, that there is no server-side meta data protection on <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/XMPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>XMPP</span></a>. But it compensates by</p><p>1. impede mass data surveillance, thanks to federation, and</p><p>2. making multiple accounts, incl. anonymous and burner accounts, very easy.</p><p>Note, that most <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/Jabber" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jabber</span></a> clients do default to <a href="https://framapiaf.org/tags/OMEMO" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OMEMO</span></a> E2EE "on" now. It took a long time, though.</p>
Gajim<p>Gajim 2.1.0 has been released 🥳 </p><p>This release brings an all-new activity feed and adds support for Message Displayed Synchronization across group chats.</p><p>Thank you for all your contributions! ❤️ </p><p>Support Gajim's development: <a href="https://liberapay.com/Gajim" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">liberapay.com/Gajim</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/gajim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>gajim</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/xmpp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>xmpp</span></a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/chat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>chat</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://gajim.org/post/2025-04-08-gajim-2.1.0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">gajim.org/post/2025-04-08-gaji</span><span class="invisible">m-2.1.0-released/</span></a></p>
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@Rgsharpe @jwz I kind of get using Signal if you think you're in a government's radar and want E2EE today and don't know anyone trustworthy to run an #XMPP server for you and don't mind sharing your phone number to a US company and some of its users ("least worst", as you said)

Since I have the privilege of not being in that situation, I'm instead supporting the open, federated, enshittification-resistant XMPP protocol so we can give ourselves comparable privacy and more besides😉

Prāv is always open for collaboration, and, at the risk of a somewhat premature announcement, we are happy to have received an expression of interest from possibly the most well-connected personality on the Fediverse!

We hope this potential partnership helps spread awareness about #XMPP to more corners of the Fediverse...once we have figured out how exactly to send a reply!

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@gino @nik @memo

Nicht unbedingt besser als Matrix, nur anders bzw. mit anderen Nachteilen behaftet: #Jabber.

Wenn man self-hosted, kann man auch eine Bridge zu Matrix haben (#slidge matridge), sodaß man keinen Extra-Client braucht. So kann ich #Gajim von @gajim nutzen 🙂

Aber #XMPP unterstützt noch keine "spaces". Der Standard dazu ist noch ganz frisch und meines Wissens nirgends implementiert: xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0503.h

(Thanks to @nicoco for both slidge and "XEP-0503: Server-side spaces"!)

xmpp.orgXEP-0503: Server-side spaces

Our hosting bill for poddery.com this month was 3492 INR (36.8 EUR). We provide #XMPP and #Matrix services to public.

It is run by volunteers of Free Software Community of India #fsci

@bady @kannan @sahil @ravi and many more.

Its costs are met through donations. So please consider donating or volunteering today. There is also non technical tasks like fund raising. See fsci.in/donate

If you are outside India buying us #Hetzner credits would be better.